  {"id":28607,"date":"2017-02-19T21:14:32","date_gmt":"2017-02-20T03:14:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.latenightim.com\/?p=28607"},"modified":"2026-04-03T01:16:49","modified_gmt":"2026-04-03T06:16:49","slug":"lnim127-transcript-email-marketing-tips-terry-dean","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.latenightim.com\/lnim127-transcript-email-marketing-tips-terry-dean\/","title":{"rendered":"Email Marketing Tips with Terry Dean [LNIM127 Transcript]"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>This is the full transcript for Episode 127. For the show notes and audio, see <a href=\"https:\/\/www.latenightim.com\/email-marketing-tips-terry-dean-lnim127\/\">LNIM127 Show Notes<\/a>.<\/p>\n<h2>Interview with Terry Dean<\/h2>\n<p>Terry Dean has been making a living online since 1996. He went from delivering pizzas for Little Caesar's at $8 an hour, with over $50,000 in credit card debt, to building a successful online business. After trying and failing at network marketing, direct mail, and door-to-door satellite dish sales, Terry discovered the internet and everything changed.<\/p>\n<p>His first success came from selling a simple ebook about internet marketing for around $17 to a mailing list of fewer than 500 people. That experience taught him the fundamental lesson that has driven his career: <strong>the money is in the email list<\/strong>.<\/p>\n<h2>Building Your Email List: Start with the Audience<\/h2>\n<p>Everything begins with understanding your audience. Before you worry about technology or tactics, think about who you are serving and what they need.<\/p>\n<h3>The Free Preview Strategy<\/h3>\n<p>Terry recommends creating what he calls a <strong>Free Preview<\/strong> rather than a traditional lead magnet. The difference is strategic. A Free Preview serves as a bridge to your first paid offer. If your audience cares about improving their tennis serve, your Free Preview is a video on serving technique, and the very next thing they see is a link to a related product for sale.<\/p>\n<p>This approach rides the momentum of their initial interest. Terry's clients typically see <strong>30% to 50% of their sales happen within the first 24 hours<\/strong> of a new subscriber joining their list. There is no need for a long warmup sequence when the Free Preview naturally connects to the offer.<\/p>\n<h2>Split Testing: Test Big Things First<\/h2>\n<p>Most people talk about split testing far more than they actually do it. When you are starting out, do not waste time testing button colors. Instead, <strong>test the big things<\/strong>: main headlines, different offers, price points, and which affiliate products resonate best with your specific audience. Test three different offers and see which one your traffic responds to. That is where the real gains are.<\/p>\n<h2>The Three Essential Elements of Every Email<\/h2>\n<p>Terry identifies two major mistakes with email marketing. The first is sending nothing but promotions, which burns your list fast. The second, and harder to recover from, is sending pure content with no offers at all. That trains your list to never expect to buy from you.<\/p>\n<p>The solution is to include these <strong>three elements in every email<\/strong>:<\/p>\n<h3>1. The Story (Hook)<\/h3>\n<p>Start every email with a simple story that gets people interested and pulls them in. It does not need to be elaborate. A brief personal anecdote, something that happened to you that day, or a story someone told you works perfectly.<\/p>\n<h3>2. The Value (One Good Tip)<\/h3>\n<p>Give one actionable tip that someone can immediately use. Email is a short medium. The biggest mistake is trying to cram too much teaching into a single email. One focused tip is more effective than five diluted ones.<\/p>\n<h3>3. The Offer (Soft Segue)<\/h3>\n<p>Connect naturally to one of your offers with a soft transition. You are not making a hard pitch. You are providing a logical next step for readers who want to go deeper on the topic you just discussed.<\/p>\n<h2>Contrarian Content Gets Noticed<\/h2>\n<p>Terry recommends making your content <strong>contrarian<\/strong>, especially when you are starting out. When everyone else says X, you say the real problem is Y. This &#8220;rant style&#8221; email gets noticed in a crowded inbox. It positions you as someone with an independent perspective rather than just another voice repeating the same conventional wisdom.<\/p>\n<h2>The Best Affiliate Email: The Case Study<\/h2>\n<p>For affiliates, the single best email you can send to promote a product is a <strong>case study<\/strong>. Buy the product, use the product, and tell people what happened. Real results from personal experience are more persuasive than any amount of hype or feature listing.<\/p>\n<h2>Value Is More Than Content<\/h2>\n<p>Terry redefines value in a way that matters. Value is not just information. <strong>Value is direction and guidance from someone you trust.<\/strong> It is specific actions people can take, delivered by someone they have a relationship with. That is why personality and authenticity matter so much in email. Your subscribers are not just reading content. They are getting advice from someone they have chosen to listen to.<\/p>\n<h2>Be Yourself, Have Fun<\/h2>\n<p>The biggest truth in email marketing is deceptively simple: be yourself and have fun. Imagine you are sitting down and talking to a friend across the table. Do not try to be anyone else. Become a bolder, more outgoing version of who you already are. Some people will love you, some will not. The worst thing they can do is ignore you.<\/p>\n<h2>Key Takeaways<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li>Build your list with a Free Preview that bridges naturally to your first offer<\/li>\n<li>Every email should have three parts: a story, one valuable tip, and a soft offer<\/li>\n<li>Test big things first: headlines, offers, and price points<\/li>\n<li>Use contrarian positioning to stand out in crowded inboxes<\/li>\n<li>The best affiliate email is a personal case study with real results<\/li>\n<li>Value is direction from a trusted source, not just information<\/li>\n<li>Be yourself. Have fun. Your personality is your competitive advantage<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>What's Changed Since This Episode<\/h2>\n<p>Mark recorded this interview in February 2017. <strong>Email marketing has only grown in importance.<\/strong> While social media platforms have come and gone in relevance, email remains the highest-ROI marketing channel available. The story-value-offer formula Terry describes is still taught by top email marketers.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Email deliverability has become more complex.<\/strong> Gmail's tabbed inbox, spam filtering improvements, and sender reputation requirements mean that getting into the primary inbox requires consistent engagement from your subscribers. The engaging, personality-driven emails Terry advocates are exactly what keeps open rates high and deliverability strong.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Privacy regulations now require explicit consent.<\/strong> GDPR (2018) and similar regulations mean you must have clear permission before adding someone to your email list. The Free Preview strategy Terry describes naturally satisfies this requirement since subscribers actively opt in.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Terry Dean continues to operate at <a href=\"http:\/\/mymarketingcoach.com\">MyMarketingCoach.com<\/a><\/strong> where he coaches entrepreneurs on email marketing and online business building.<\/p>\n<h2>Resources Mentioned<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/mymarketingcoach.com\">Terry Dean &mdash; MyMarketingCoach.com<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"http:\/\/mymarketingcoach.com\/free\">Terry's free email resource<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.latenightim.com\/email-marketing-tips-terry-dean-lnim127\/\">LNIM127 Show Notes<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Related Episodes<\/h2>\n<ul>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.latenightim.com\/essential-copywriting-tips-lnim128\/\">LNIM128 &mdash; 11 Essential Copywriting Tips<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.latenightim.com\/best-copywriting-formula-pastor-lnim129\/\">LNIM129 &mdash; The Best Copywriting Formula<\/a><\/li>\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.latenightim.com\/call-to-action-tips-lnim126\/\">LNIM126 &mdash; Call to Action Tips<\/a><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<h2>Listen and Subscribe<\/h2>\n<p>Listen to Late Night Internet Marketing on <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/late-night-internet-marketing-mark-mason-affiliate\/id323964382\">Apple Podcasts<\/a> or subscribe at <a href=\"https:\/\/www.latenightim.com\/internet-marketing-podcast\/\">latenightim.com\/internet-marketing-podcast\/<\/a>. 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